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Rose Byrne On Life With Her Boys & Being Back Home

"Australia's always going to be my emotional home"

Growing up in the crowded suburb of Sydneyโ€™s Balmain, Rose Byrne was a quiet kid, whose parents encouraged her to pursue acting to combat her shyness. โ€œI was never a super confident [young actor],โ€ admits the now 41-year-old Byrne, her calm composure at odds with the younger self she is describing. โ€œI look at social media and the savviness, sophistication and confidence of the young actors I now work with โ€“ millennials โ€“ and I think, โ€˜Wow, I never had that, ever.โ€™โ€

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Yet fast forward a few decades and the transformation from timid Aussie teen to Hollywood heavyweight is apparent โ€“ even down to the empowered female characters she chooses to immerse herself in.

In 2020, Byrne played iconic feminist Gloria Steinem in Mrs. America. The mini-series is based on the true story of the attempt in the 1970s to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment in all 50 states of the USA, and Steinemโ€™s unsuccessful battle against the conservative activist Phyllis Schlafly (played by Cate Blanchett), who led the backlash against it.

At first glance, Byrneโ€™s new gig โ€“ Physical, a 10-part, whip-smart comedy set against the backdrop of the aerobics craze of the โ€™80s โ€“ seems a far cry from Mrs. Americaโ€™s serious historic bones, but both tell a story of society in flux, with feminism at the fore.

In Physical, Byrne plays a tortured Californian housewife, Sheila Rubin, who finds her power through exercise and eventually becomes a lifestyle guru with her workout videos, paving the way for the dime-a-dozen fitness influencers of today. โ€œThe showโ€™s all about that whole generation of discovery โ€“ going from the โ€˜Weโ€™ generation [in the โ€™70s] to the โ€˜Meโ€™ generation of today,โ€ Byrne explains. โ€œNow everybodyโ€™s an entrepreneur. Everyoneโ€™s got a clothing line or a candle line or a parenting blog or whatever. The โ€™80s was the beginning of that and this show is examining how it started.โ€

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Airing on streaming platform Apple TV+, Physical is funny and fast-paced with throwback costumes that are beyond fabulous, but be warned, this is no family show. Sheila battles serious demons, including bulimia, as she Reebok-steps her way to the top of the fitness industry. โ€œI just found everything about it fascinating,โ€ says Byrne. โ€œPhysical is the first full-time series I signed on for since Damages [2007-12], because I knew what it takes in terms of time shooting, the hours, the commitment, especially when you have a family.โ€

Weโ€™re chatting in Sydney, where Byrne and her partner of almost a decade, two-time Emmy Award-winning actor Bobby Cannavale (Will & Grace and Boardwalk Empire), and their young sons, Rocco, five, and Rafa, three, are settling back into life after a turbulent period in COVID-ravaged Los Angeles. โ€œItโ€™s really nice to be here after filming in California,โ€ reflects the actor, whose family is usually based in the brownstone-lined borough of Brooklyn, New York. โ€œItโ€™s still quite full on back in America, so weโ€™re happy to enjoy the safety of being in Australia until at least the beginning of summer.โ€

Itโ€™s the second stint in Byrneโ€™s home state of New South Wales the family have undertaken in recent times โ€“ in 2020 Cannavale starred in Nine Perfect Strangers, based on Liane Moriartyโ€™s best-selling book, which was filmed in Byron Bay. โ€œWe lived up there for a good part of the year,โ€ recalls Byrne, who relished the opportunity to be close to friends and family. โ€œAustraliaโ€™s always going to be my emotional home,โ€ she explains. โ€œMy children were born in America, and Iโ€™ve been based there for many years, but I will always have a feeling, a little bit, of being an outsider. Australia is where my family and earliest memories and friendships are โ€“ all the grounding things in my life are here.โ€

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And of course there is her professional passion, Dollhouse Pictures. Co-founded in 2015 by Byrne, her childhood best friend, actor Krew Boylan, producer Jessica Carrera and directors Shannon Murphy and Gracie Otto, the Sydney-based production company is officially committed to prioritising female-driven storytelling, maverick collaborators and inclusivity and diversity on-screen.

Itโ€™s already delivered six short films, including the ACCTA-nominated Chlorine, and Phoebe Tonkinโ€™s directorial debut, Furlough, which opened Flickerfest 2021. The companyโ€™s first feature film, Seriously Red, is slated for release later this year, marking a career milestone for Byrne, who executive produced the project. Itโ€™s a musical comedy about a Dolly Parton impersonator, played by Boylan, who also wrote the script.

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Both Byrne and Cannavale appear in supporting roles, led by Otto as director. โ€œIt was definitely a big turning point for our company, a huge learning curve, and working with my best friend and our incredible colleagues was amazing,โ€ says Byrne.

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In a separate conversation, Carrera is glowing about Byrneโ€™s producer instincts. โ€œItโ€™s a tough journey putting a film together, but Rose was always hands-on and committed to the process, the story and the team โ€“ sometimes with kids in arm. She is a great leader, a great friend, and really present with everyone.โ€

Mercifully, Dollhouse isnโ€™t the only beacon of hope when it comes to female-led content on the film and television landscape. The industryโ€™s changing, along with audience appetite for womenโ€™s stories. โ€œShows like Physical or Mrs. America probably wouldnโ€™t have been made five years ago,โ€ concedes Byrne. โ€œIn fact, Annie Weisman wrote the script [for Physical] more than eight years ago. Stories about women are finally ready to be told and seen through a real female lens, literally โ€“ Physicalโ€™s cinematographer is a woman.โ€

As proud as she is of her career and the incredible women sheโ€™s crossed paths with along the way โ€“ including Glenn Close in Damages, the series that helped her crack America โ€“ Byrneโ€™s biggest pinch-me moment was Mrs. America, purely for the homage it paid a movement much bigger than any individual woman. โ€œI thought I knew about feminist history before that,โ€ she says. โ€œIโ€™d read The Feminine Mystique by Betty Friedan and The Beauty Myth by Naomi Wolf, so I thought I knew. And then I realised I know nothing. It was incredible and inspiring and challenging โ€ฆ itโ€™s a fascinating era thatโ€™s largely undiscussed and undocumented. Events like the womenโ€™s conference in Houston in 1977 had a huge influence on politics and administrations. The fact [the Equal Rights Amendment] was never ratified, meaning itโ€™s actually not in the US constitution that women have equal rights as men. Whatโ€™s so scary about being equal? Whyโ€™s that such a dangerous and terrifying thing for people to embrace?โ€

Suddenly, talk of civil rights and flawed politics stops. โ€œIโ€™m so sorry โ€“ can you hear one of the children screaming? Oh my God, whatโ€™s happening downstairs? Hang on, itโ€™s OK, theyโ€™re with Bobby. Iโ€™ve got another five minutes.โ€ But three-year-old Rafa, whoโ€™s just wandered into the room to find Mama, begs to differ and implores her (in the cutest baby New Yorker drawl) to come โ€œdownstewasโ€ and play hide-and-seek. โ€œItโ€™s all good, Babe,โ€ quips Byrne to Cannavale, who followed Rafa in to apologise for the intrusion. โ€œIโ€™ve got him.โ€

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The sweet interruption seems a nice segue to ask Byrne how she intends to teach her sons about equality. โ€œSorry about that,โ€ she says. โ€œAs a parent, itโ€™s always pretty chaotic โ€ฆ For a start, I teach them by being a working parent,โ€ she answers emphatically. โ€œWeโ€™re an example of a household that balances both parents going out to work. But I also totally respect mothers who stay home. Itโ€™s really hard work and recognising that is what Gloria Steinem fought so much for. Why is [raising a family] not working? What goes on in the home is the most beneficial contribution to children and [society].

While Byrneโ€™s star has ascended dramatically in the past decade, she and Cannavale have refreshingly had little issue overlapping their unique Hollywood brands. In fact, theyโ€™ve collaborated at least eight times on various creative projects. The most mesmerising of these home/work collisions happened onstage at the Brooklyn Academy of Music in January 2020 in a contemporary version of the Greek classic Medea, long before COVID or โ€œcapital uprisingโ€ became American household buzzwords, and when New Yorkโ€™s theatre district still hummed.

The play about a straying husband and murderous wife, modernised by Australian writer and director Simon Stone from the 431BC Euripides original, was a risky departure for Byrne, best known and loved for mainstream comedies such as Get Him to the Greek (2010), Bridesmaids (2011), and Like a Boss (2020). But the applause from audiences and critics spoke volumes. โ€œSaw Medea last night,โ€ posted the Emmy award winning actor Ethan Hawke. โ€œIโ€™ve known that Bobby Cannavale was the real thing for years โ€“ he has turned in some of the finest stage performances of my lifetime โ€“ but nothing prepared me for Rose Byrne. She takes the roof off the theatre. Funny, incendiary, pure high-octane madness.โ€

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Byrne lights up when she recalls the experience, one that surely will stay vivid in her memory forever. โ€œI donโ€™t often get approached for those sorts of incredibly dramatic roles, so I absolutely loved it,โ€ she says. โ€œTheatre is rigorous and terrifying and draining, but it really is an actorโ€™s medium.

Doing a play together was a big decision, particularly because you miss a lot of bedtimes. But [Bobby] was relaxed about us working together, so I thought, you know what, I should just throw caution to the wind and try this instead of being so church and state [about work and family]. And he was very much a supporting character in Medea, too. Iโ€™ve been around a long time, and thereโ€™s not a lot of male actors of Bobbyโ€™s calibre who are willing to do that [play support to a female lead]. Heโ€™s one of the few fantastic actors who will, so heโ€™s had some incredible parts in great films, where the protagonist happens to be a woman, like Blue Jasmine [starring Cate Blanchett] and Homecoming with Julia Roberts.โ€

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Sure, he may be supportive, talented and woke, but does he change nappies, I ask. โ€œNot anymore,โ€ she replies, with a laugh. โ€œWe donโ€™t have to, thank God. But yeah, heโ€™s all in [with fatherhood]. Heโ€™s all in.โ€

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While her work is increasingly female-focused, living in a household of boys is second nature to Byrne. โ€œAll my sisters have had boys and Bobby has Jake [his first son from a previous relationship], whoโ€™s 26, so in a way itโ€™s all Iโ€™ve known,โ€ she says. โ€œItโ€™s just so wild seeing those little personalities grow. Being a parent is just a life-changer. It reframes everything. Kids are so grounding, they couldnโ€™t care less if youโ€™ve had a hard day. They keep you in the moment.โ€

They also build resilience, and Byrne is candid about how much sheโ€™s toughened up through her journey as a mother, and an actor. The shy, self-conscious young woman is long gone. โ€œI absolutely have thicker skin now. I read old articles with myself and I just cringe and think, โ€˜Oh my God, lighten up, donโ€™t take yourself so seriously,โ€™โ€ she says with a chuckle. Itโ€™s a notion Sheila Rubin would appreciate.

This story originally appeared in the July issue of marie claire, on stands now. 

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